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The post-obit Wikimedia Commons file used on this folio has been nominated for speedy deletion:

  • Transverse section of the Aula Magna at UCV.png

You lot tin can see the reason for deletion at the file clarification page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) ten:06, 27 August 2018 (UTC) [reply]

Some of the text on this page is a modified translation from the Castilian Wikipedia, all the same there is much more than content, with more references, on the English Wikipedia article. Kingsif (talk) 23:05, 27 August 2018 (UTC) [answer]

Removed from folio September 1st, 2018 Kingsif (talk) 22:45, 1 September 2018 (UTC) [answer]

"The main video, recording, and reproduction organisation was donated in 1991 by the Commonwealth of Japan and the Sony visitor. The cardinal panel of audio was bought in 1997 and is also from England."

Did find mention of the Japan claim, since lost the source.

"When it was first built, the hall had a simultaneous translation system for special events and conferences, which was available in several languages ​​and accessible to anyone from his seat by connecting headphones to the front of the armrest. At present, this organisation has been disconnected, with only some of the wiring remaining in the seats and flooring."

"These panels had been congenital in the Jorge Rodríguez Square ("Tierra de nadie, UCV [es]"), which is nearly the edifice, and and then brought inside by the back of the stage before information technology was finished."

Because Vox of America/Voz de América is US authorities, their content tin be freely uploaded to commons. This video has some frames that could be taken to exist uploaded as images for the Aula Magna: https://www.facebook.com/LaVozdeAmerica/videos/1869927089685098/ Kingsif (talk) 20:43, 5 September 2018 (UTC) [reply]

Development narrative from Newman: [1] Kingsif (talk) 16:57, 25 July 2019 (UTC) [reply]

+ more than old docs. Kingsif (talk) 02:51, 18 Baronial 2019 (UTC) [respond]

+ more Patrick Frank book Kingsif (talk) 01:35, 30 September 2019 (UTC) [reply]

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Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 18:23, half dozen Nov 2018 (UTC) [reply]

[edit]

Delight could you address the post-obit points:

  • Acoustics
    'The hall was named in the 1980s as one of the five rooms with the best acoustics in the world' has a tag which is still valid;
  • It took a while to discover a source that isn't a dead link; there was a promising better source, simply a quick UCV library search finds a book written past Beranek which claims this. diff Kingsif (talk) 23:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC) [respond]
  • 'It is besides said that "the Aula Magna'southward interior [...] represents the high-point of Villanueva's interest in the synthesis of the arts' has a tag which is still valid.
  • The source was named in the ref, added names to article. Kingsif (talk) 23:04, 11 November 2018 (UTC) [respond]
  • References 1, 3, iv, 5, 12, 14, 17, eighteen and 28 incorporate links which cannot be reached or which go to the wrong place.
  • To disagree, all these piece of work fine: ref ane (link), ref iii (link), ref 4 (link), ref 5 (link), ref 12 (link), ref xiv (link), ref 17 (link), ref xviii (link), ref 28 (link). (Refs at time of comment, from the edit on September 26th) Kingsif (talk) 23:14, 11 November 2018 (UTC) [reply]
  • Lead section - this is an inadequate summary of the article, and needs to be expanded, some of the information in the atomic number 82 department is non mentioned elsewhere.
  • Will work on making this an accurate summary and incorporating data into the article body. Kingsif (talk) 23:14, eleven November 2018 (UTC) [respond]
  • Prose - the whole article is clearly written, but some of the sentences are too long to read hands, such sentences would benefit from being split into smaller sentences.
  • Long sentences aren't errors, but may be poor mode, though it all seems readable to me so I don't know where you're looking. I looked over the grammer; I made some small-scale tweaks but there was nothing actually wrong. Kingsif (talk) 23:14, eleven Nov 2018 (UTC) [reply]

This is an interesting commodity which contains plenty of references and lacks personal inquiry, and which covers the subject. The images complement the article well.

I've put the article on hold for vii days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought upward. Feel gratuitous to contact me on my talk page, or here with whatsoever concerns, and let me know one of those places when the problems take been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will arrive possible for me to see what'due south been addressed, and you tin can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Hel-hama 17:40, 8 Nov 2018 (UTC)

Further improvements [edit]

The remaining points for bringing the article are forthcoming. They will exist relatively pocket-sized and should not take besides long to address, but I feel information technology is important that my initial comments are addressed kickoff. I will listing the remaining points in the next few days. Hel-hama 17:45, eight November 2018 (UTC)

  • The remaining expanse for improving the article up to the required standard to be classed as 'good' was the standard of English. The are numerous examples of poor prose, east.k.,
  • "A study published in 1955 by the Museum of Modern Fine art that looked at Latin American compages too stood impressed and fascinated..."
  • "It was in the hall, during its inauguration, no less, that several k globe leaders collectively signed the historical resolution..."
  • "In line with concerns, during a protest in July 2013 a bus was lit on fire..."
  • "In late 2014, Copred refitted the interior surface a roof slab of the Plaza Cubierta..."
  • "...and was open up to changing designs..."

As the initial comments I provided were non addressed, I have failed the commodity based on those points.Hel-hama eighteen:thirty, 15 Nov 2018 (UTC)

  • Your initial comments weren't serious issues, and from my replies it's clear I was working on them. To then give extra feedback just immediately fail the nomination is just dumb. I experience similar you failed this prematurely and unnecessarily, and will reopen information technology. I'd similar for someone else to review the nomination, give thanks yous for taking it up, though. Kingsif (talk) 01:10, xvi November 2018 (UTC) [reply]
  • Your're welcome. Proficient luck with the article. Hel-hama 03:xi, sixteen November 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: KJP1 (talk · contribs) 07:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC) [respond]

Looks very interesting and happy to selection information technology up. Sorry yous had to look so long. I affair: I don't read Castilian then shall have to take most of the sources on trust. KJP1 (talk) 07:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Quick fail criteria assessment [edit]

  1. The article completely lacks reliable sources – run into Wikipedia:Verifiability.
  2. The topic is treated in an apparently non-neutral way – see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
  3. There are cleanup banners that are obviously still valid, including cleanup, wikify, NPOV, unreferenced or large numbers of fact, clarifyme, or similar tags.
  4. The commodity is or has been the field of study of ongoing or recent, unresolved edit wars.
  5. The article specifically concerns a apace unfolding current event with a definite endpoint.

Articles passes quick-fail assessment. Master review to follow.

Principal review [edit]

1. It is reasonably well written.

a (prose):
The prose is mostly to a good standard and I'll Laissez passer on this criteria subject to consideration of some suggestions for possible improvements beneath.
Lede
  • A couple of general points. First, y'all've got a lot of citations in the lede. Given that it's a summary of the primary article body content, you lot might desire to think nearly removing those that don't support direct quotes. Second, it comprises four, rather curt, paragraphs. I'd aggrandize them a trivial. Now, specific points:
  • Will piece of work on this Kingsif (talk) 23:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]
  • "The most notable feature of the hall is its acoustic "clouds", an creative and practical part" - Link acoustics at showtime mention. Possibly, "The near notable features of the hall are its acoustic "clouds", which serve both artful and practical functions"?
  • Will link and rewrite, should it however be plural if the "clouds"/perhaps capitalized "Clouds" in full general is considered a unmarried piece - i.due east. how about "The most notable feature of the hall is its acoustic "clouds", which serves both aesthetic and applied functions"? Kingsif (talk) 23:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC) [respond]
  • "and too because academic, artistic, and political events have taken place within information technology" - perchance, "and also because of the academic, artistic, and political events which have taken identify inside it"?
  • Will rewrite Kingsif (talk) 23:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]
Construction
  • "When the University City was deputed to be congenital in 1943, a committee was formed to analyse options for the planning" - Non sure "to exist built" is necessary. Perhaps, "When the University City was deputed in 1943, a committee was formed to analyse planning options"?
  • Works well Kingsif (talk) 23:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]
  • "As well as choosing the location near Key Caracas, this committee as well recommended basing the projection for the campus on like endeavours, naming the recently opened National University of Colombia in Bogotá with Leopold Rother's "urban project" there as one" - This reads a fiddling oddly. Perhaps, "Too as choosing the location near Central Caracas, the committee also recommended basing the programme for the campus on similar models, including Leopold Rother'south "urban projection" at the recently opened National University of Colombia in Bogotá"?
  • Thank yous for the copyedit! Kingsif (talk) 23:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]
  • "Designs for the central campus complex were started in 1944, with early studies and a "tentative" programme by Villanueva." - This is missing something? And "tentative" is non quite right. Perchance, "Designs for the central campus complex were begun in 1944, with Carlos Raúl Villanueva drawing up early studies and an outline plan"?
  • "and the design had to accept "substantial changes" in 1949" - perhaps, "and the design underwent substantial changes in 1949"? and I wouldn't have "substantial changes" in quotes unless it is a direct quote, in which example it needs a cite.
  • "The final design was washed in 1952" - "The terminal design was complete by 1952"?
  • Above three, besides cheers Kingsif (talk) 23:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC) [respond]
  • "The ability to make changes is said by experts to exist not just because of Venezuela thriving in these years, but besides because of Villanueva's likeable personality, and that out of all of his successes during this period, the Aula Magna is an "unprecedented work"". - This seems to be saying at least two things. First, adaptations to the program were possible due to Venezuela's buoyant economy and to Villanueva's flexible personality. Second that the work was "unprecedented". I'd split them into something like, "The ability to make changes to the plans was due in part to Venezuela's economic prosperity and in part to Villanueva's accommodating personality. Of his works during this period, the Aula Magna is considered unprecedented." Even hither, I'grand not quite sure what "unprecedented" means here. Does it hateful, "he hadn't done something like information technology before"? In which case, "ground-breaking" / "revolutionary"?
  • "It is too written that Villanueva was good at adapting in his work, likewise as embodying Modernism, and was open up to changing designs as the ideas of structure naturally moved" - I don't call back "Information technology is likewise written that" is needed. And information technology's another sentence that's trying to do too much, covering both his adaptability and his Modernist arroyo. Possibly, "Villanueva was capable of adapting his work, while remaining true to his Modernist principles, and was open to changing designs as ideas for the construction evolved"?
  • "Fifty-fifty Villanueva'southward designs invoke synthesis of art equally well as living architecture, describing buildings every bit "movements" in the key (of which the Aula Magna is 4)" - What's the "Even" doing here? I'm afraid I'm not getting this sentence. What'due south a "synthesis of art also as living architecture"? Who's doing the describing? And "in the key" of what? Sorry, tin can't make a suggestion equally I'm really non certain what information technology's trying to say.
  • Will work on the higher up three (you know what, I'll showtime editing and respond to the whole review, thank you lot for the notes!) Kingsif (talk) 23:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]
  • "every bit a culmination of its other elements" - Are there other culminations? "the culmination"?
  • "started on Nov 28, 1952, with its end date set equally March 31, 1953" - that is so incredible a structure period that I think it really needs a direct commendation. Reading on, are we sure that completion date wasn't March 31 195four, with a xiv month build period.
  • "architect Carlos Raúl Villanueva" - link and introduce him on start meeting in the para. in a higher place.
  • "The hall was baptized and opened on December 3, 1953 (in a pocket-sized ecclesiastical and formalism act)" - see higher up re. dates query. And I don't call back one baptizes a building. Perhaps, "The hall was dedicated and opened on December three, 1953 with a pocket-sized religious anniversary"?
  • "Reportedly, when Villanueva offset entered the completed hall (Calder's clouds newly painted), he threw his arms up and shouted that it was tremendous" - Couple of things. Non sure we need the "Reportedly" and we've non met Calder before and didn't know he designed the "clouds". His intro. and function, from the next para., demand moving up.
Specifications: Acoustics
  • "The hall was named in the 1980s, seemingly by Leo Beranek in review, every bit one of the five rooms with the best acoustics in the world" - Well, did he or didn't he? And who is he? At that place's a link, and so perhaps - "The acoustics engineer Leo Beranek ranked the hall in the earth's acme five concert halls for its acoustics"?
  • "cheers to a organization that combines engineering and fine art: the Flight Saucers or Floating Clouds designed past the North American artist and engineer Alexander Calder" - the intro for Calder's needed above so mayhap, "due to the system of panels, chosen the 'Flying Saucers' or 'Floating Clouds', adult by Calder"?
  • "The initial destination of the clouds was not inside the hall" - mayhap, "The clouds were non originally intended for the interior of the hall"?
  • "the shape of the structure would make the acoustics terrible" - A chip vernacular. Perchance, "the shape of the structure would detrimentally affect the acoustics"
  • "The structure of the panels, or clouds, is a steel frame containing ii pieces..." - Perhaps, "The construction of each of the panels, or clouds"? Or better, "Each panel, or deject, comprises a steel frame..." And I'd put in a semi-colon after "secured together".
  • "Brusk ton" needs a link.
  • "The real ceiling of the room is 9.8 feet (iii m) above a fake plaster ceiling installed below" - got a scrap confused past the "in a higher place/beneath" here. Is information technology something similar, "The real ceiling of the room is 9.8 anxiety (3 m) above a false plaster ceiling which supports the panelling and facilitates..."?
  • "Artistically, art critic Phyllis Tuchman noted" - not sure what "Artistically" is doing here?
  • "It is too said, by Helen Gyger and Patricio del Real, that..." - Another superfluous, "It is also etc." Why not just, "The critics HG and PdelR write..."?
  • "Floating Clouds" - we need consistency for these. Italics, Floating Clouds, I think not, or double, "Floating Clouds", or single, 'Floating Clouds' quote marks? I prefer the concluding.
  • "One of the near interesting examples of this is the seats" - says who? "The seats exemplify this. They are made from the wool.."?
  • "Some other noteworthy element" - says who? "Another element"?
  • "creating between them a kind of vacuum that prevents both the leave of sound and the entrance of noise from the outside. On the balcony level, the doors role the same, though both the internal and external doors are fabricated of wood. There is also a folded wooden canopy positioned eight meters above the stage to soften sound" - Perhaps, "creating a vacuum between them that prevents both the get out of sound from the hall and excludes external dissonance. On the balcony level, the doors function in the aforementioned style, though both the internal and external doors are fabricated of wood. There is also a folded wooden canopy positioned eight meters higher up the stage to farther soften audio"?
  • "The precise design of the hall includes even the original carpet that covered the aisles of the room, which were cashmere, which aids acoustics. However, in the 1990 renovations the carpets were replaced with a synthetic material" - perhaps, "The original design of the hall included aisle carpets made of Cashmere wool, which also helped the acoustics. However, during renovations in the 1990s, the carpets were replaced with ones made from synthetic material"?
Lighting systems
  • "The lighting system is versatile" - delete "system" to avoid close repetition? "having two primary lighting systems" and delete "lighting" for the same reason.
  • "a series of instruments to produce events with lighting effects" - "a series of instruments to produce lighting furnishings"?
  • "The most interesting thing virtually the lighting in the Aula Magna is that the onetime main console was a duplicate of a lighting organ created in England, by Strand Lighting, who had adapted the keyboard of an organ to operate as a lighting control panel" - Again, who says so? Why not, "The quondam main lighting console was a duplicate of a lighting organ, created in England past Strand Lighting, which adapted the keyboard of an organ to operate as a lighting command panel"?
Construction and façade
  • " inspired by the archetype Greco-Roman theatre" - Link?
  • "designed like an amphitheater and conch vanquish" - "or"?
  • "Equally, information technology is said that", and afterward "it is described as" - superfluous.
  • "A study published in 1955 past the Museum of Mod Art that looked at Latin American compages also stood impressed and fascinated" - Not certain a study can stand "impressed and fascinated". Peradventure but "also noted the hall was..."
  • "This creates some notable facts nigh the hall" - Perhaps only, "incongruous features"?
  • "you can see many works of art" - vernacular. Perhaps just "are"?
Events
  • "It was in the hall, during its inauguration, no less, that several thousand globe leaders collectively signed the historical resolution declaring Communism a threat to world peace" - A few things. I think the "no less" is unnecessary. "Several thousand" world leaders sounds an awful lot. Were they all leaders? And was "the", probably, "a", annunciation especially "historical"? It sounds rather par for the class for a generalísimo. Information technology doesn't take an article on hither? Equally an aside, I don't suppose the Lincoln Portrait was performed at the Aula Magna? That would warrant a mention.
  • "Hausmann, from a famous family unit of anti-Chavistas" - I recollect "anti-Chavists" will demand some explanation. Perhaps, "from a family with a history of opposition to Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez"?
  • "Ane of the company'due south productions of Jesus Christ Superstar in the hall, on March vii, 2010, was attacked by masked assailants with tear gas before the show, harming the actors" - I remember y'all might need to explicate a little more why Superstar was attacked, as role of a entrada of intimidation, rather than a protest against Lloyd Weber'southward music.
Preservation
  • "the Aula Magna was inscribed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site in the year 2000" - "designated"?
  • "The organisation" - "UNESCO"?
  • "a growing number of students" - "the growing number of students"?
  • "In line with concerns" - "UNESCO's fears were afterward realized; during a protest in July 2013..."?
  • "with donators including Banco Mercantil" - "donors"?
  • "it has been said that" - past whom?
  • "However, in 2015 an fine art historian and industrial designer commended that the hall" - perhaps, "Despite these setbacks, in 2015 an art historian and industrial designer noted that the hall..."?
  • "$392,919 at the official charge per unit of the time, or $2,943 on the black market" - this sounds very depression, even at black marketplace rates! Can you lot bank check it? There'due south no source given.
  • "The hall also aims to preserve tradition of the hall every bit well, with sources saying that its "continued reason for being" is the "proud" moment when UCV students enter every twelvemonth to graduate and be inducted equally "ucevistas", and that this should extend for generations" - I tin can't read the source but this reads rather oddly. Autonomously from some superfluous wording, "as well", it'southward non clear what the source is maxim. That the master raison d'être for the hall is its employ as the graduation venue for UCV students and that this needs to exist perpetuated? Can't really suggest an culling.
b (MoS):
Not my forte merely as far every bit I can meet information technology meets MoS:
Thanks, some piece of work done. Re. Lincoln Portrait sadly no, I feel it may have been performed at a baseball stadium due to this source saying it was in a 6000+ seat outdoor stadium. Kingsif (talk) 01:19, 18 May 2019 (UTC) [respond]

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

a (references)
Equally noted at the get-go, my inability to read Castilian is a major handicap and therefore I have had to AGF more than than i would ordinarily exercise. I have checked the following, nevertheless, and with one exception, they all look good so will be happy to AGF regarding the others and Pass on Sources, subject to consideration of Source 7.
  • Source 2 - Although in Spanish, ane tin see information technology supports the text.
  • Source 7 - This appears to be from the Castilian Wikipedia Architecture Portal. It'due south an impressive portal but we can't really source Wiki from Wiki. Can they be replaced?
  • Source nine - I don't have/have access to this, just information technology'due south a audio source.
  • Source 10 - Supports the text.
  • Source 11 - Looks fine just information technology would assistance to give the page number as it's 115 pages long.
  • Source thirteen - Fine.
  • Sources 15 and twenty - Look fine simply seem to be the same piece of work, cited slightly differently. Should exist combined.
  • Source 22 - All expert.
  • Source 23 - Tin't admission merely looks sound. As an aside, I've found at FAC - if you're thinking of that - some reviewers much dislike Google Books links, even when they give a snippet. The site is, rightly, seen equally commercial and I tend to utilise WorldCat for this reason.
  • Source 24 - Good.
  • Source 25 - Fine.
  • Source 26 - A blog but I think it volition practice hither.
  • Source 27 - Fine.
  • Source 28 - Fine.
  • Source 31 - Fantabulous source.
  • Source 32 - Can't access but looks sound.
  • Source 34 - Fine.
  • Source 36 - Fine. Isn't information technology an expanded, English language version of Source 2?
  • Source 37 - Needs a "Subscription required" tag
  • Source 38 - Fine.
b (citations to reliable sources):
  • The range of sources look reliable.
c (OR):
  • There's no indication of OR.
d (No evidence of plagiarism or copyright violations):
  • Comes upwards at 19% on the Copyvio Detector simply that's only the Bernstein quote.
  • Some work done tidying upwards Kingsif (talk) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]

iii. It is broad in its scope

a (major aspects)
  • Covers what seem to me, as one who'd not heard of the edifice, to exist all of the necessary major aspects.
b (focused):
  • It doesn't stray from the chief focus on the building.
  • Thank you Kingsif (talk) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC) [answer]

4. It follows the neutral indicate of view policy

Equally far as the building goes, all is adept. I observe only a slight hint of anti-Maduro/Chavez sentiment, e.chiliad., "from a famous family unit of anti-Chavistas", "from the Chavez so Maduro government stances of "scorn for" and subsequent defunding of universities and "marginalisation of culture"." The starting time doesn't have a source, and I can't check the 2nd every bit information technology requires a subscription, but I'd but make sure the points are fully supported by the cite.
By "famous family of anti-Chavistas" I simply meant that they are all well-known for this sentiment - Michel Hausmann's father and sister are notoriously vocal in the United states, and his uncle is currently a political prisoner. Direct quotes, though from a source that sways on its view of Maduro. I can simplify that. Kingsif (talk) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]

v. It is stable

  • All stable.

half dozen. It is illustrated by images, where possible and advisable.

a (images are tagged and non-free images take off-white use rationales):
  • The images are mostly cracking and add much to the article. They all appear appropriately licensed. Two - the graduation and the orchestra - aren't acme quality but in that location may be nothing ameliorate to illustrate the points beingness fabricated.
b (appropriate utilise with suitable captions):
  • Captions are fine.
  • Cheers Kingsif (talk) 01:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]

seven. Overall:

Laissez passer/Fail:
A keen article on a fascinating building. Well-sourced and well-illustrated. My concerns are mainly effectually prose clarity and Source7. Await forward to discussing/passing when you lot've had a take chances to take a expect. Shall put information technology On Hold now. Allow me know if y'all need more time than the usual 7 days. KJP1 (talk) 12:43, 12 May 2019 (UTC) [answer]
@KJP1: Let me know if you have more than feedback! Kingsif (talk) 01:52, xviii May 2019 (UTC) [reply]
@KJP1: I've now removed all refs to source7, with all info covered by other sources (it must have been left as better sources were found). Thank you. Kingsif (talk) 03:04, 27 May 2019 (UTC) [answer]
@Kingsif: - Apologies - am away at nowadays and simply logging in occasionally. Shall try to accept a look tomorrow. KJP1 (talk) 06:01, 28 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]
Kingsif - First off, apologies that this took longer to finalise than planned. I had thought I could wrap it up before my leave, but that didn't testify possible. But thanks for considering the suggestions. It looks good, and I'm pleased to Pass information technology. Congratulations and all the best. KJP1 (talk) 09:35, 4 June 2019 (UTC) [reply]

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